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[21] The writer John Harris argued along similar lines in a 2007 article in The Guardian. This article was first published on the 13th of January 2017 and updated many times since. For all these things we really really really love the UK: low taxation, laissez faire and flexibility/open-mindness of the British (especially the English ) people in business and life is refreshing. Yes, Nicola Sturgeon's Scotland wants more immigrants. [27] Use of the term 'chav' was reported in The Guardian in 2011 as "class abuse by people asserting superiority". Going south helps, but the salaries are way too low to afford it too often. Being British born myself I have seen how Britain has changed for the worst over the last decade or so and am now trying to convince my husband for us to move abroad somewhere where we can have hotter weather, more reasonable housing and public transport costs, a salary which accurately reflects the amount of work and education that goes into your job and an overall better lifestyle. But in hindsight, when the Brexit vote came up, practically the whole company was for leave. I'm still searching for the answer but got lost somewhere along the way. :). Many greetings, Josefa! Margaret Thatcher's legacy lives on. I'm currently temporarily living in the UK (my boyfriend is English) and I feel you! It's fab that you can learn so much because we have open borders. Have actually watched any of the TV? You've explained very honestly what I've been feeling for some time now - I'm now in a position where I feel that the values of my birthplace no longer align with my own. Same elsewhere. It has good food, great climate, culture, sea,.. and it's nog too far from "Home". For Essex, the common theme seems to be that it thinks our homes are full of 'chavs' - but they're very wrong. Thank you, Karin. This, sadly, has to be the most ludicrous, ill informed, nonsensical piece of writing I have ever had the misfortune to read. How can you call that democracy? But please know that you and your husband are welcome, you are safe, and if our government ever decides to sort themselves out and stop being absolute tools, I hope you come back some day :) But in the meantime have an absolute blast in Portugal, Hungary and wherever else the wind takes you! But no one wants to live in Scotland! The food is good here if you know where to eat. The thing is all the time that was just beneath the surface. Eu membership is brilliant for immigrants like her who get immediate access to all the UK facilities, including the NHS and benefits. We're spending 2017 living out of bags - currently in Portugal, soon heading to Morocco and Albania, the maybe Italy before SE Asia. Before the big crash in 2008 I felt a sort of charm about the UK that was such a huge part of my identity. This obviously all falls in line with the class society and with the fact that this is a tresure island for rentiers. Though it's not where my heart is. i am Ghanaian immigrant haven grown in England this is an amazing piece you have written here,truly summing up the hush reality of living in England,the prices of housing,paying unnecessary bills just for fun, which literally takes all your salary,not that the salary is enough. This brings me to the last point, which is safety. But obviously you're biased because you're an immigrant so you're never gonna understand me. The best years were probably (economically and socially) from mid 1990's, 1993 until 2008 (esp the boom Blair years). The Pro: If you like cooler days and grey skies, you will love living in the UK. The perception is Britain 'easy' - do what you want, whatevers. Sorry Brandon but I think you are missing the point because Cory is talking about how immigrants are treated . Bigot "a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions". How is that even logically possible when the UK simply doesn't GROW resources needed for their population to sustain itself? We enjoyed the crazy amount of products, the fantastic range of online shopping and the quality customer service. My immigrant NHS Nurse parents were proudly British, enjoyed good Grammar education for their daughter, good universities for both kids, homeowners in nice well to do market town etc. I could see where things were headed and at the time I was a social worker. I grew up in 'Middle England' Home Counties and have lived in the Midlands and Yorks so have a fair view of Britain, England (vs London) and consider myself (and family) thoroughly British (I open my mouth and you will agree too!). we miss home but home is empty.. In fact, I am in the market for a new European car (which allows me to drive on the right-hand side) and the equivalent of the car I am selling here, is 5 times the price in any other European country. I don't like the sunshine so no, I didn't expect wall to wall sunshine. Look at the last 50 years of Britain and name a single big talented innovator in this market! No offence, but millennials tend to romanticise the far left. Any advice is really welcomed Countries like Japan are very friendly to tourists of course, but they would never let foreigners rise to a high level in politics or business. We need more people such as yourself, who realise that indeed, the UK needs immigrants to keep certain parts of the country afloat. In the UK people say: "Not bad", which is true, it's not bad here, but it's certainly not "awesome" or "great" and we live once, and we are clever international people. The class system, the monopoly that the Royals hold and their ongoing theft of taxpayer funds while supported by the House of Frauds and their PR machine have destroyed the soul of the UK. Hes the Mrs Bucket candidate; and yet his shiny top hat and molecule-thin veneer of civilisation somehow hypnotises his target demographic into forgetting his divisive and dangerous extremism. Firstly may I compliment a well written and fascinating article! You can live in a place like Bristol for example, where the cost of living is much more affordable, thus enabling you to have a decent life in the UK. All thanks to the naive and ignorant older generation. This means that if you have a car, you can get pretty much anywhere around the UK. It feels like the majority of the population hate being alive, and the infamous make-do and stiff-upper-lip attitude gets to me. I don't want to have that life when they work 7 days a week and never get to enjoy the city. Get your free Top 10 Luxury Hotels in the World ebook. And you know what? I think we'd agree with just about every point you've raised about the UK. In addition, I think there are other significant and perhaps more substantial factors that are playing into this hostility, namely, the rise of religious fanaticism, fundamentalism and its debate in Britain. If you can, and open your eyes and hearts, there are some truly beautiful in heart brits around you. Dickhead. Most ordinary British people outside of the chattering classes in liberal metropolitan London know they are the Jones who can no longer keep up with their richer Aussie Jones cousins or the Singaporean and Hong Kong Tans. The governments have decided to further cut budgets for education, science and academics. Oh, and I don't know what 'self-sufficant' is - perhaps you were trying to say 'self-sufficient'? We contribute more to the country than many others. Throughout my university years, I inevitably made friends with a lot of politics students. Good luck finding your new base guys :) Can't wait to see where you travel to! Did I? The term floated about beforehand, but in the 2000s it was on steroids. Food for thought! Excellent read! I am half Spanish but raised and born in the uk. But usually I live in Scotland with my British partner and we've discussed leaving the UK in a few years for all the reasons you mentioned. I voted to Remain but even I know the EU has undermined democracy. And dozens of other things if you bothered to look it up, which you aren't. I was curious to know where have you shifted to and how has your experience been so far. I know exactly how you feel as me & my husband are going through the same. She has visited hundreds of destinations and has lived in 7 different countries. Hi Katie, thank you for your comment. Brits live in the illusion that its great here but in reality its a shithole. Maybe it was our experience with Bristol and London. Lots of things cost the same in Canadian dollars here that they do in pounds in the UK! And frightening. You honestly think Scotland is the best thing about the UK? This was mainly because we loved and believed in Tony Benn. We have less of a poverty divide than such likes as the good old USA, and better transportion than the vast majority of Europe (which I have travelled all over). Many of them, in fact. Best of luck to you. We are both honest people, law-abiding citizens who pay taxes as individuals and as a company. Half the British population has been gamed into voting against the interests of the country by an alliance of convenience between ultra-right wing fringe elements and Putin's 'interesting' approach to geopolitics. The Windrush generation certainly did not receive welcome open arms. It is nice to hear some positive stories. I asked for proof to see what I spelt wrong and on how many occasions. You've knackered the only horse in town. Don't confuse friendliness with openness. As a small island, the UK has and will always be expensive, but this is the same as all other developed small islands, Iceland, Bahamas, Singapore, New Zealand etc. Is it because you're desperately trying to get away, and you can't? Kind Regards. Like Vinz said below, let THIS sink in too mate. So just try a little bit harder. As a British Citizen, I found myself sadly agreeing with so much of what you addressed. Wow Cory! I dont always like this, but I prefer this to the Chinese system of steamrolling over peoples rights, which would be much cheaper. Below I will explain some of the factors we took into account when we made our decision. Safety: the UK has one of the lowest homicide rates in the entire world The global peace index is NOT a good representation of safety, it takes a lot of other factors into account, for instance, the fact that the UK has atomic bombs and most other countries don't. When we got married we decided to live someplace else and experience different cultures. I look forward to meeting some older people living abroad who maybe, indeed, kept their wits. Dear Renee, you can't please everyone. Europe has Merkel, Tusk and Juncker. Do you want to know what the Dutch think about your country? From Downton Abbey, the UK became more of a Harry Brown. We are the first of the G7 countries to require zero CO2 emission by law. Great read, I stayed for a year in the UK and like reading your honest perspective on things after 10 years. For the uninitiated, 'chav' is a (often derogatory) term for those young people who typically dress in tracksuit. Also it does rain here a lot, but given water shortages will be one of the biggest threats to world peace, I would take a bit more rain over a dry country any day of the week. History has shown us this. Cory is multilingual and an alumna from The University of Manchester. We weren't happy in our home country either. However, times are changing indeed. In an ideal world none of these things should matter. We gave more money in international aid to poor countries than the all the EU combined and only second in the world after the US, and yet people still complain we are mean spirited and vote us at the lowest in Eurovision Britain is a beacon for generosity and immigrants. This post is so timely for us - we're currently approaching the end of our two year contract and are trying to decide whether we move on from Abu Dhabi to travel relatively long-term or whether we commit to another year. Bristol is actually just as wet as Manchester because it is in the west - so actually you did live in a relatively "rainy" part of England, yes. Those who are racist can be found anywhere, even in your own country. Saying that, UK has a huge potential to rebound when it breaks away from the limpets in power sucking its tits off. Economically and socially, I'm afraid to say. My partner whom I love much doesn't seem to understand this. Plus with the stupid spellings now some parents choose, who knows how they're spelled!!! We both naturalised to become British citizens. This isn't really a new thing. Rain makes this country green heaven, which is ideal for keeping those beautiful rolling hills everyone loves. We seldom feel the urge to travel for food, when there's so much local food to be discovered. The continuous media obsession of crisis after crisis perpetuates the problem. . I have never lived in UK. Thank you for your message. I guess it's a "grass is always greener" situation for all of us lately. I cycle to work and yes it does rain at times, but much less than elsewhere and often times it only rains a little bit, so you don't actually get really wet. How can a Dutch doctor steal Englishman's jobs if said Englishman simply isn't qualified (because of said class system) to even get to that level of education? We British are trying to adapt to the new situation, nearly as much as the immigrants are. The difference here is that a small number of bigoted people are using racist rhetoric to manipulate the masses. And so, nobody ever remembered the severe damage the conservative party did to this country throughout the years. Susie Dent's Larpers and Shroomers: The Language Report, published by the Oxford University Press, designated it as the "word of the year"[29] in 2004. It created the perfect environment for me to work, write and create. [citation needed], The large supermarket chain Asda has attempted to trademark the word "chav" for a line of confectionery. Travel in my native country of Australia isn't cheap, but you can get from my city (Newcastle) to Sydney on the train for five bucks the same distance in the UK would cost around 60 quid on the day. Over half the worlds patented inventions are British. I lived alone in a small flat in Birmingham, my wages covered my rent and bills and nothing else. I think people like this author who want to attack the UK and the British people should LEAVE PERMANENTLY as their self centred bigotry will never change. I gave it to my manager and he just read his name at the top. I know many foreigners who are happy in the UK and live well. As a Labour supporter with some Lib Dem views, I cannot reason with the Brexit idea no matter what. I worked in a high level cyber security position after leaving military so I KNOW. Cory, are you a mind reader? Lol, they have direct access to private healthcare through their kids' corporate jobs. Hi Lena, it took a lot of courage to say all these things. I only visited once in September and the whole trip was very depressing. It is terrorism free, it has lower cost of living and phenomenal weather. there are times I just break down in tears thinking about how screwed I really am and I am not a dual national so I cannot leave the United Kingdom any time soon even though I desperately want to leave. Discourse on chavs in contemporary Britain has been widely implicated in the . We just made positive gains as a society in how we viewed foreigners role within our society and gradually people became less extreme. For me, moving to the UK where I've traveled a few times a year for over 20 years for work and fun - is about spending time with friends and loved ones there and the opportunity to travel Europe much easier. The level of racism in Continental European football matches for example is shocking. How is it fairer for a British national to claim free education, free social care, free medical from Spain but is not ok to offer the same to another who wants to make a life for themselves in the UK? (Has the author been to 'Bradistan' in West Yorks?). Yes, it's possible to "get on with it" but what's the point living if you're surrounded with unkind and cruel people? :-(. However, the vast majority of Brits are not racist, just a small majority (around 52%), you know, those who voted to leave. Brexit was and will continue to be a mistake. Unfortunately there are a lot of uncultured and racist people in the UK, its so disappointing. A birth country that doesn't fully accept me because I speak different, act different, live differently than the majority. As a former UK resident, I understand your position. I went through the whole British educational system. I came back due to family, but Im itching to get the hell out of here and go travelling again, and head back to Australia. But that does not justify mass immigration, and I say mass immigration because I am in favour of short immigration of few people and more controlled. Bradford, Calderdale, Kirklees, Leeds, and Wakefield all contribute to this high level of crime, and violence and sexual offenses are prevalent crimes, with over 100,000 crimes reported each year. Nicer weather, a little more affordable than London, and here I feel home (although I'm not from here originally). And the people that think this is OK: well they are next, eventually; when they figure out what is going on and decide to fight back themselves. James, why are you in Germany if you hate the EU so much? Anyway, good luck How on earth can you say the roads in the Uk are well maintained????? We saved Europe from Nazis and agreed to defend Europe unconditionally after Brexit. You see, books and stories can have a wonderful influence on us all. "[36] In Kingsman: The Secret Service, the main character Eggsy Unwin (Taron Egerton) is introduced as a stereotypical chav.[37]. 1) There are many non-ethnic/non-Han Chinese people in high up positions in the CPC (not CCP) [28] Writer Owen Jones also criticised the use of the term in his book Chavs: The Demonization of the Working Class. To cut it short, I'm sad you're leaving for those reasons. The NHS and benefits best thing about the UK honest perspective on things after 10 years perception Britain! Yes, Nicola Sturgeon 's Scotland wants more immigrants is the best thing about UK. Kids ' corporate jobs to look it up, which is safety as the immigrants.! 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