Red Dead Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. In gta 5 if you're in Franklin's house near his bookshelf there is a book that has Jack Marston's name on it. /r/RedDeadRedemption - A subreddit dedicated to Red Dead Redemption & Red Dead Redemption 2, developed by Rockstar Games, the creators behind the Grand Theft Auto series. Thats why its surprising that the game simply glosses over Abigails death when it moves on to the epilogue. So probably wont happen. He became a writer, thats johns Redemption. Biography Jack and Abigail standing next to John's grave. Jack is later kidnapped by the Braithwaite family and given to Angelo Bronte and is missing from the gang for some time before returning to the gang after they complete a business deal to get him back. Location What would he do when he found them anyway? With that, it's fairly easy to figure out his age as events progress. Jack Marston (1915) After a year, Jack heads back to Beechers Hope. I think that if ww1 happened in the red dead universe, and Jack was still alive and out of prison after the events of rdr1, he would probably be drafted in 1918. Suddenly. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. And by the end of the first act, the biggest shift should be that the mobs need you far less now, and you're no longer able to use their resources. He spends most of his time reading, which furthers his knowledge but also made him shy. I believe Jack Marston would've just killed Ross and just parted ways with the outlaw life. Horses can obviously traverse terrain easily, fast bunch need breaks and food. The epic storyline of Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption 2spans roughly 15 years, focusing in part on Jack Marston, leading many to wonder about his age. They bury John and Uncle on the hill overlooking the ranch. Either way, unfortunately, the true cause of Abigails death will remain a mystery thanks to the reluctance of the Red Dead Redemption games to name a definite reason. The tender moment between the two is cut short by a wide-scale attack from the U.S. Army, U.S. Location Map End Wasnt there a book he wrote in GTA 5 somewhere? ", "Go ahead! Little Jack deserves better. In his quest for revenge, Jack kept a rather calm and friendly demeanor, and had his anger in check, only showing his intense hatred for Ross when the latter dismissed John's death as his own fault upon being confronted. They won't do that. Or it could have been something completely random, like a freak illness, animal attack, or accident. A major theme of his character is his sense of inferiority when compared to his father John, a veteran and experienced gunslinger and hunter. I like to think he became a wartime journalist and married a nice European girl afterward. Jack is brilliant. The first officer says theres no reason for that We got about 30 more surrounding the tree line jack would pause So youve come here to arrest me? Jack would shout. I got nothin' to live for anyway!". He then unpacks his stuff and begins buying supplies to run the ranch once more. Jack skinning an animal for the first time, Jack and his father embrace for the last time, Jack Marston injured after trying to kill a bear by himself, Jack attempting to teach himself how to shoot, Jack Marston reading a book in the family room, Jack Marston joking with his mother while reading a book, Jack Marston describing the book he's reading to his father, Jack Marston running outside when his father calls for him, Jack and Abigail rising after succumbing to the infection, An infected Jack tied up in his parents bedroom with a plate of food, Jack and John trying to help a poisoned Rufus in the mission ". It was Dutch who taught John how to read and shoot, ultimately resulting in Marston becoming a member of the Van der Linde gang. That's kind of a cool thought, Jack in the military. Red Dead Redemption's central character, however, is Jack's father,John, an outlaw who eventually tries tosever ties with his criminal past in no small part for the sake of his wife, Abigail, and his son. At the player arrival, only Ross's wife is present. Jack gets a similar haircut like John's, also using the same hat John use's in Red Dead Redemption, and Jack also has scars after trying and failing to hunt a bear to prove he is no longer a small boy. John and Abigail had two children together, a son, Jack Marston (born in 1895), and a daughter, whose date of birth and death are unknown. He saw the gang as his uncles and aunts, who watched over his growth and shielded his innocence from their more nefarious actions. Affiliations Jack Marston (1924) In 1924, Jack quits his Job at The General Store in Valentine and packs his stuff and moves back to Beechers Hope. Jack also appears as a supporting character in Undead Nightmare and appears once again as a major character in Red Dead Redemption 2. Red Dead RedemptionStranger Side-missionRemember My Family Note: The events of Undead Nightmare are not considered part of the same canon as Red Dead Redemption. Wanders the remains of the west bounty hunting and or engaging in petty crimes eventually traveling to mexico. They all died brutally just like agent Milton said they would, Nah I like to think Jack Marston killed Ross and turned away from the outlaw life to shed the sins of John. Sometimes, a glitch will occur in which a second shotgun can be seen floating beside Phillip Ross. Alexandra is a freelance writer based in Montreal. One of Jack's most dominant traits was his fast learning: at 4 years old, Jack already possessed basic literacy skills, and he learned the basics of fishing from Arthur Morgan. WebAt some stage during Jack's early years, John left the gang for a year. Jack confronts the retired agent about his part in John's death, but Ross simply dismisses John's actions as his own fault. Jack and Abigail then proceed to bury both John and Uncle on the hill overlooking the ranch. At times, he appeared to be somewhat timid and was often mild-mannered when speaking to his family or friends. A comment from Jack himself in 1907 suggests the gang not only cared about him a lot and tried to keep him out of their illegal activities, but also avoided mentioning them to the boy, yet Jack still managed to deduce something about it by himself. I think Jack used his interest in literature to become a writer, using Arthur/Johns journal, and embellished them with campfire stories Uncle used to tell Jack. He has also taken to wearing his father's hat. She's injured during the shootout but survives and stays around on the Marston ranch long enough for John and Abigail to get married and for herself to heal up. Becomes a bootlegger forming a crew maybe he survives but he may die or be arrested. Jack heads to Blackwater, where he meets an agent called Howard Sawicki on the train station in the town. Even if he did find out about that, he would've forgotten it by 1914.. so logically there's no way Jack can apply the name "Tacitus killgore" for himself. An easter egg (although not confirmed that GTA and RDR are in the same world) in GTA V reveals that after almost becoming an outlaw, Jack returns to his normal life, a life separate from his fathers, a life his family wanted all along. Jack can be found as an NPC at Beecher's Hope between the mission "The Outlaw's Return" and "The Last Enemy That Shall Be Destroyed". In 1899, Jack is a fairly average four-year-old boy with thick brown hair and faint freckles on his face. Jack refuses, takes a rifle, and helps John and Uncle in their fight against the lawmen. Yes and the book in GTA V suggests he was a decent writer and he was interested in books so I find it likely. As Jack's past catches up to him, his criminal record attracts the attention of the new head of the FBI, Archer Fordham. Jacks book is in gta v. Speculation is cool but its all pretty much right there. Arthur tells Tilly Jackson to take Jack to Copperhead Landing, to wait for Sadie and Abigail. But maybe that's me wishing all the suffering Arthur and John went through wasn't for nothing. When approached by a prostitute they will be disgusted with Jack and turn him down. Depending on if you play the side missions as Jack or John, Jack spends a good time after that helping people around the Wild West and Mexico. Sometimes only at the end of a story do you realize what it was all really about. im sure theres some word that only poets and thesaureses know that describes how looking and seeing all the ideas for RDR2 DLC's, but its brutal man. Later, the plague starts again, and John, who was buried with holy water, returns as an undead with a man's soul. Jack is not seen again until the final mission, where he and Abigail are found by John to have returned to normal. Outside of his talent with a gun (which personally i like to think hes not quite as good as John or Arthur, even though he can use DeadEye) Jack always had his head in a book. She loves travelling, drinking too much coffee, and shopping as a sport. Went back to Beecher's Hope and Ranched. The death of his family and the decline of the Marston ranch, all happening in a very short amount of time, greatly darkened Jack's personality. I don't think John knew he was going to abandon Abigail and Jack, but regardless there's not really any reason he would opt to help Dutch later on when the whole point of going after Dutch in RDR1 was to save John's family. WebGameplay. At some stage during Jack's early years, John left the gang for a year. In 1911, Jack and his family, were kidnapped by federal agent Edgar Ross, who ordered John to kill his former brother-in-arms. Abigail and Jack are then brought to John and Abigail's bedroom, where John leaves them with some food before leaving to find a cure for both. But Jack isn't the same man as before as the horrors of ww1 had scared and moulded jack into a hardened man, which affected his ability to return to society by not being able to hold a job, in where he goes on to reform his gang while adding in a few new additions from some friend of war were they rob trains, banks and bootleg imported liquor from Europe this is also were they make connections with the new york crime family were the become close partners were they supply the gang with ammunition and Jack provides protection for the family. Given how important Abigail wasto the story of bothRed Dead Redemptiongames, the character deserves more closure. I think that is a good idea. Meeting Philip, Jack finally locates Ross down the river hunting ducks. So Jack made a deal with the FIB so that if takes down the crime family jack and his gang can all have their names cleared off and the agent agrees and after jack and his gang are able to leave the life of crime. He turns around and walks away, before deciding to track down Ross, in vengeance for his family. Also im pretty late to the party, just finished Red dead redemption. If the player uses a high powered weapon in the duel, Ross may be sent flying back into the river, causing his body to become impossible to loot unless the player pushes it out of the water by slowly walking into it. If you look into the bookshelfs in GTA5 he wrote a book named "Red Dead" so yeah, guess he became an author. Back at the Marston ranch, John finds out that both Jack and Abigail are back to normal. But saying that I think a game beginning with Jack returning from the war and trying to adjust to modern life would fit the themes of the games so far, it'd just obviously be quite a different setting. Jack grew up amongst the gang, oftentimes referring to Dutch, Bill, Hosea and Arthur as his uncles. Will there be a Red Dead 3? In the original Red Dead Redemption, players take control of John Marston as he is forced to hunt down his former gang members from his Dutch Van der Linde days. He wouldve been the prime age they were looking for when the selective service act was enacted. He doesn't want to fight for the government. He basically spends a good time after his fathers revenge being a Wild West vigilante. In 1996 Jack eventually died of heart disease. He ends up becoming very well known through West Elizabeth and parts of New Austin Jack gets into contact with Pronghorn Ranch in 1916. Following the bear hunt, Jack's face reminded scarred with bear scratches, resembling those of his father. After Jack buried his mother next to his father, he leaves the ranch in order to begin his quest of revenge at Edgar Ross. At Nekoti Rock, Jack is badly injured by a bear and his mount is killed in the process. In 1996 Jack eventually died of heart disease Unfazed by Ross' threats to kill him, Jack challenges the older man to a final duel. As the child of John and Abigail, Jack lived his early years around the various members of the Van der Linde gang such as Bill Williamson, Javier Escuella, Hosea Matthews, Arthur Morgan, Uncle, and even Dutch van der Linde, among others. The links above will perform a search for the content that matches this page's name. You can't kill an ex-government agent (highly decorated one as well) without someone snooping around afterwards. Visiting Don Julio, Jack meets Edgar's wife Emily, who greets him with a rant about how the government doesn't let Ross retire in peace, before apologizing and directing him towards the camp of Edgar and his brother Philip, close to the San Luis River. Soon afterwards, the Marston family temporarily moved to the Yukon to participate in the ongoing gold rush, but they didnt make much from it. In a war like that you fight for your country, not your government. Once defeated, Edgar stumbles backwards and falls to the ground, dead. The Marston family is the family of John Marston, prominent in Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption 2. He is being badgered by the very organization he worked with, and he can't seem to shoot well anymore. We can use a car, but at a certain point we uses horses to get into the woods. Enhanced Reflexes Master Marksman Master hunter Master survivalist Master Hunter Master Tactician Master Horse Rider Skilled Hand to Hand Combatant. It is possible to exact revenge on Ross' family as well, by killing his wife and brother. The following description is therefore not contiguous with the preceding section on Red Dead Redemption. Occasionally, while dueling Ross, he will be facing toward the pond shooting. A while later, Jack and Abigail bury John and Uncle on a hill overlooking the ranch. JackJackieJackie Boy (? Before being hogtied, Jack chases Rufus but fails to catch him. Actor Jack and John fight more waves of soldiers before running off to the barn with Abigail. Jack and Ross draw their handguns, but Jack is faster and Ross is gunned down by the young duelist. Hi! Jack refuses to back down which results in a duel between the two, where Edgar Ross is gunned down. Because as @Jannes8492 said everyone he knew were dead or gone and it was very hard for him and had a very bad effect on him, too. Being the only surviving member of the Marston family, the rest of Jack's life is unknown. Well with the most recent audio glitch we've been hearing around with an older Jack Marston we very well might get a story dlc involving Jack after he killed Ross. Dennis Reynolds might be responsible for his death though. She only stopped working when she fell in love with John. Bounty Hunters still exists today but they have a diffrent types of names now which are mercenary, gun for hire or bodyguard so in conclusion Jack Marston likely became a mercenary or gun for hire after RDR1. RELATED: All 15 Red Dead Redemption 2 Characters Based On Real People. Ending credits Heading to New Austin, to the lake, Jack does not find Ross, but meets Ross' wife, Emily, who tells him that Ross has gone to a hunting trip along with his brother on the Mexican side of the lake. Three years later, in 1914, a 19 year old Jack is seen standing near the graves of John, Uncle, and Abigail, with the latter having died of an unknown cause. John hugs Jack and tells him to close the door and the windows of the Marston house, and come out. Attempting to snipe Edgar prior to the duel will result in an automatic mission failure; as well as simply looking at him through the scope, even if the trigger isn't pulled. It is speculated that he was trained under Landon Ricketts, a famous gunslinger, and a friend of his father. Jack was born around the mid 1890's. John tries to learn Jack how to shoot a rifle properly, much to Jack's dismay. The way you put it a soldier is a murderer then? Despite being fairly open and comfortable around people at the age of four, he was considerably more shy and reserved by the time he was twelve, and began to feel inferior to his father. A horse killer? This is the only side-mission which John Marston cannot complete. The family also brought a dog called Rufus, who Jack took a liking to. The age of outlaws was over. With the addition of the Liars and Cheats DLC pack, Jack Marston is also a multiplayer character model that may be selected in the 'Redemption' section of the Outfitter. Jack appears as a supporting character in Undead Nightmare; he is first shown sitting with his mother at the Marston residence, reading a book while discussing swearing with Abigail. During the cutscene, the agent points Jack to the south of Lake Don Julio; furthermore, the newspaper includes a story indicating that Edgar is living near the lake. WebIts kind of implied at the end of rdr1 he says " maybe youll write a book one day" jack says " the legend of john marston when he stopped shooting" or something along those lines. Age: 4 in RDR2 and 16 in RDR. In 1911, John is forced to take up the role of gunslinger once again when Edgar Ross and Archer Fordham find him at his ranch and force him to hunt down and capture or kill his former gang members by capturing his son and wife. He wears a dark grey vest, a blue and white vertically striped shirt, and brown pants. I know it's mostly implied that Jack became an outlaw after killing Ross. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. RDR2 caps it off nicely. The only canonical action of jack Marston is killing Additional info He thought that California would bring him hope, but America is a land of broken dreams. So personally i think he wouldve went off to find charles or sadie because they were the only people he actually knew and I feel like there was nothing left but depression left for in great plains due to all the death of his family there . After the death of his father revenge almost consumed him, although he seemingly abandoned his goals of a proper future, he keeps his anger and check, and remains polite while hunting his father's killer. Simply being in close quarters with someone would be enough to contract a fatal disease such as tuberculosis, a common death sentence for the time. Jack is first playable during the final sequence of the mission "The Last Enemy That Shall Be Destroyed"; he is limited to only riding his horseback to the Marston Ranch, and it is the only time where his 16 years-old self is controlled by the player. Jack and Abigail's status afterwards is unknown. Unnamed Scottish great-great grandparents of John - Possibly murdered by the English government. And what if he dies, would it just put you back to the mission before the death? The true end of Red Dead Redemption, however, takes place in 1914, putting Jack's final age at just 19. That's the end of the story. If I were to really cross my fingers, it would be the same map with 3 new cities. It's to the game's credit that there's no narrative pressure to avenge the injustice. Do you guys think Jack Marston eventually lived a happy life despite the loss of his family? on the map. She explains that Edgar went with his brother on a duck-hunting trip in Nuevo Paraso. Lake Don Julio Finally, John and Rufus ride to the top of Nekoti Rock, finding an injured Jack hiding behind a rock. He has level 3 dead eye, can fight about as well as John, can hunt the same, and knows how to break horses all the same. Remember My Family is a Stranger side-mission, the epilogue of Red Dead Redemption and the only mission which can only be done with Jack Marston as the protagonist. They all loved their country. There's no sign at this point Rockstar is working on a Red Dead Redemption 3, or some other spinoff in theRed Dead series. His love for books and stories prompted him to aspire to become a writer or a scholar, which his parents partly approved, as they also wished for him to be a rancher. Jack taking vengeance on Ross has the implications that Jack didn't go on to live a normal, moral life like his parents wanted. A few days after the bear hunt incident, Jack begins to work at the barn, until John enters. He leads a small group that roams around the country, but always makes it across state lines and gets around jurisdiction. After the closing credits, Ross's body can be looted ($400). Family After ending his business with Edgar Ross, John reunite with Jack and Abigail, as well with Uncle, who didn't keep the Marston Ranch in a good shape, leading all the livestock dead or stolen. Red Dead Redemption 2 is an epic tale of life in Americas unforgiving heartland. Red Dead Redemption playerseventually learn John's age, thanks to a cutscene and other details. It is unconfirmed however. Game Listening to Ross's comments before the duel, he can be heard cursing when he misses the shots. Based on accounts from his wife and his constant cursing during his duck hunt, Edgar Ross appears rather unhappy with his retirement. *After killing a dog/animal "I used to love animals", *After killing a horse "This what ive become? While waiting for his father, Jack reads a book and discuss his mother on her swearing, as well as joking with her regarding Jack finishing his "university education". 1899 When Abigail hears gunshots from the ranch, she tells Jack to ride back to Beecher's Hope. Not even being gunned down by the government was enough to wipe his name away from the annals of history. I hope he became a writer or something but I think he'd become a soldier, to be honest. Unnamed female prostitute - Mother of John. Jack Marston was voiced by Josh Blaylock. His grief and loneliness appear to have developed a severe case of depression and self-loathing. A Chicago style city in the mid North East, a San Fran in the south West just beyond the edge of the map, and a Florida a little South east of Saint Dennis on the other side of the River. Out his age as events progress will occur in which a second shotgun can be cursing. 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