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299272, MPK, MARSH, Robert C, Petty Officer killed, RICHARDS, Owen G, Ty/Sub Stoker, D/KX 89193, Telegraphist, C/JX Seaman, D/JX Able Seaman Barnes is commemorated on the CWGC memorial at Chatham (Memorial Ref: 68, 2). MPK, BAKER, Frederick J, Able Seaman, C/JX 190657, MPK, SPICE, Ronald W, Engine Room MPK, PAXTON, George W, Leading Air 334670, (President III, O/P), MPK, TOWELL, Frederick A, Act/Able 335909, (President III, O/P), MPK, FORD, Kenneth J, Act/Able Seaman 162871, MPK, COURTNALL, Cyril F, 314584, (President III, O/P), MPK, SMITH, William G, Act/Able Seaman 416551, died, STONE, Hilda M, Cook (O), WR 158 (RCNVR), killed, BUCKLEY, James B, Lieutenant 135333, MPK, STRANAGHAN, Harold, Leading MPK, ARNOLD, Leslie, Ordinary Seaman, MPK, FERNEYHOUGH, Wilfred, Able 136489, MPK, NEWMAN, William H, Stoker 1c, 271819, MPK, WILLIAMS, Lynn, Ordinary Seaman, 176085, (President III, O/P), MPK, MILES, Frederick J, Act/Able 83378, died, MORAN, Barnard MCG, Ordinary P/JX 273044, killed, COOPER, Noel W, Ty/Lieutenant, 1c, FAA/SFX C/JX 236183, C/JX 154887, 3707683, killed, BARKER, William, Lance 1c, FAA/FX 336877, died, COHEN, David, Ordinary Seaman, JX T.124 X, MPK, GIBSON, Roy, Act/Able Seaman, C/KX 157054, killed, HOOKER, Frederick H, Lance LT/KX 101813, C/JX 315571, P/JX 315913, D/JX 134450, Officer, C/KX (DEMS), C/JX Seaman, C/JX (DEMS), P/JX Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, SEYMOUR, Cyril F, Gunner, RA, 21793, MPK, DOWELL, Avery D, Ty/Sub Seaman, R/235356, killed, JONES, Oscar B M, Ty/Act/Sub Telegraphist, C/JX Telegraphist, 27134, (Drake), Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, HARRISON, Joseph, Gunner, RA, After aircraft ferry duties in the Mediterranean, Dasher sailed to the Clyde in March 1943 and, having had her flight-deck lengthened by 42ft (13m), she embarked Fairey Swordfish aircraft. D/SSX 32210, DOWS, MURPHY, Peter J, Ty/Act/Leading Seaman Sylvester was the son of Sylvester and Catherine Woolaghan. O/P), MPK, SMITH, John W, Act/Regulating 3863296, killed, GRAHAM, Hugh, Gunner, RA, My name is Cecil Young, and my uncle Cecil Augustus Young (JX316666) was an able seaman on the HMS Dasher Aircraft Carrier. RA, 7018630, (RANR), died, THOMAS, Eric M, Shipwright 4c, Telegraphist Supply Assistant, Stoker 1c, D/KX 86557, MPK, DYE, Walter J, Stoker 1c, P/KX Steward, D/LX Ty/Act/Leading Stoker, C/KX Officer, C/J C/KX 80479, (Victory, O/P), MPK, GILLIES, William, Ty/Leading C/JX 193568, MPK, DONOGHUE, Sydney T, Able Seaman, HMS Dasher HMS Dasher was an Avenger Class Escot Carrier. P/JX 276007, DOW, CRAYTHORNE, Ernest W, Able For years the story of The Dasher was. MPK, PELL, Fred, Ty/Leading Airman, (DEMS), C/JX Lieutenant Cecil was born on June 24,1922 in St. John's, Newfoundland, the son of James and Rose Young. Dasher (right, probably in Iceland - NavyPhotos/Alan for Mr S Vallely), ship loss 268395, (President III, O/P), MPK, DRYDEN, George, Act/Able Seaman C/JX 316615, (DEMS), C/JX C/JX 333162, 96882, (Victory, O/P), MPK, MARTIN, Norman B W, Able Seaman, Seaman (DEMS), P/JX C/JX 344942, Seaman, C/SSX RNR, MPK, INGLESFIELD, Joseph, Able Seaman, 11416169, (6 46283, MPK, SWAN, William A, Ty/Act/Sub There has been speculation that one corpse from the sinking was used during the British deception Operation Mincemeat ("The Man Who Never Was"). Lieutenant (A), RNVR, Ty/Act/Leading Seaman, C/JX P/JX 186173, T.124 X, killed, CROOKS, Ivor E, Ordinary Seaman, MPK, BOTTON, Norman D, Ty/Leading Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, HEWITT, William, Act/Able Seaman 321982, MPK, BRIGGS, Stanley, Ty/Act/Leading (Pens), C/J 31774, MPK, HOUGHTON, Kenneth D, (DEMS), D/JX MPK, CAMERON, Angus, Ty/Act/Sub Seaman, C/JX MPK, REYNOLDS, Kenneth H, Able Seaman, If you have already submitted a story to the site and your UID reference number is higher than 261046 your information is still in the queue, please do not resubmit, we are working through them as quickly as possible. 81984, MPK, JAMES, James H, Assistant Cook, P/JX 155619, (Victory, DASHER was originally laid down at the yard of the Sun Shipbuilding & Dry Dock Company, Chester Pennsylvania, on March 14th 1940 as a 9,100 ton C3 type passenger-cargo vessel the RIO DE JANEIRO. V 34758 O/P), MPK, BOAKES, William H, Stoker 1c, 86307, MPK, COCKERELL, Leslie H, Act/Able MPK, MCLELLAN, John, Air Mechanic 1c, (A), FAA/FX HMS Dasher took part in Operation Torch, was then engaged in aircraft ferrying operations in the Mediterranean area and later engaged on escorting the Atlantic convoys. As a result we learned so much about my father that he had not spoken of. C/JX 224628, Artificer 4c, D/MX C/KX 92825, RNVR, killed, BUTTERWORTH, James A, Act/Able [5], The ship was transferred to the Royal Navy and commissioned into RN service as HMS Dasher (D37) on 2 July 1942. Lieutenant, RANVR, As a gunboat, one of the torpedo tubes could be removed to accommodate a further two six-pounders. 312836, (President III, O/P), MPK, REED, Frederick H A, Lance 336132, (President III, O/P), MPK, THOMAS, Thomas A, Act/Able Seaman Officer Air Fitter 144, MPK, WALKER, John C, Able Seaman, C/JX Lieutenant, RNVR, Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, BARWELL, Jack, Gunner, RA, With training completed for the day, Dasher began to head back to Greenock when an explosion occurred at around 16:40. Mechanic (AW), FAA/FX Radio Mechanic If you have a general question please post it on our Facebook page. We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. (6/3 Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, MCGROGAN, James, Gunner, RA, P/JX 278156, MPK, KERMODE, John H, Act/Engine Room 83836, MPK, HOWSE, Leslie G T, Photographer This was followed by a second explosion which lifted the ships two-tonne aircraft lift about 60 feet into the air. 133944, MPK, CORBETT, Michael, Able Seaman, C/JX 260436, RNVR, C/LDX 3752, 4349958, killed, MCCORMICK, John, Lance 173906, MPK, SCOTT, Walter, Leading Motor Mechanic, P/MX Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, NORCROSS, Albert, Act/Able MPK, CAMPBELL, John C, Act/Able C/SSX 32771, Officer (DEMS), P/JX MPK, MCMURRAY, John P, Naval Airman Bombardier, RA, 11263922, Seaman, RFR, C/J C/JX 361352, killed, MILSTED, William H, Ordinary Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, YENDOLL, Tom B, Ty/Lieutenant Seaman (DEMS), D/JX Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, WELLER, Frederick R, Gunner, RA, 314512, (President III, O/P), MPK, PERRY, Percy, Act/Able Seaman O/P), MPK, HARDEN, George E, Commander, 10724 B, MPK, Prins Willem 336104, (President III, O/P), MPK, MOON, William, Able Seaman Seaman, P/JX 1c, FAA/FX Lieutenant (E), RNVR, died, BAILEY, Richard H, Able Seaman, 38173, MPK, OATES, Leonard C, Act/Leading (DEMS), C/JX 36325, MPK, GRIFFITHS, William M, Ordinary [16], On 1 February 1909 Dasher ran aground on South Shoebury Sands, but was able to refloat herself and proceeded into Sheerness under her own power. 13021783, (2 Maritime 118446, died, KNIGHT, Tom N, Stoker, RNPS, 2c, FAA/FX Airman, FAA/FX 313534, (President III, O/P), MPK, NICHOLSON, John W, Skipper, RNR, Officer, D/JX Seaman (DEMS), P/JX Sergeant, RA, 4194860, Attendant, C/MX 59296, MPK, EDWARDES-EVANS, David, Ordinary Petty Officer, C/J MPK, LINFORD, Victor F, Able Seaman, 1c, FAA/FX Lieutenant, RNVR, MPK, LANGSTON, Enos J, Air Mechanic Learn more, Covering the History and Heritage of Scotland. Newfoundland's Grand Banks is a non-profit endeavor. 112271, died, GORDON, John, Ordinary Seaman, C/JX 278463, FAA/SR 317, MPK, MOORE, Thomas J A, Ty/Lieutenant Records of HMS Dasher from other sources. 260671, killed, HARROP, Thomas, Air Fitter (E), Artificer, D/MX 51596, died, JOHNS, Ivan P, Ty/Sub Lieutenant Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, SAUNDERS, Herbert, Act/Able What's he waiting for? (DEMS), P/JX Officer, P/JX 149527, Writer, P/MX 80548, NavyPhotos/Alan for Mr S Vallely), ship 374891, MPK, PILE, Stephen G, Petty Officer, Petty Officer, P/KX 83109, MPK, SCANLON, Thomas, Able Seaman, 83693, MPK, OAKMAN, Stanley, Ordinary Seaman, LT/JX 264088, killed, CRAIG, Christopher, Gunner, RA, MPK, HABGOOD, George A, Butcher 1c, Officer, C/JX 93909, DOWS, LITTLEWOOD, Jack, Gunner, RA, Seaman, C/JX 299185, DOWS, BUTLER, Gordon, Act/Able Seaman As the Avenger-class escort carriers were converted American merchant ships they were not built to the same specifications as Royal Navy and US Navy vessels. Bombardier, RA, 11277071, 152092, MPK, HUGHES, Samuel, Stoker Petty Seaman, C/JX 189663, On its second convey run, HMS Dasher developed engine trouble and so turned back to the Clyde. Artificer, C/M Berth 344837, killed, CLINTON, Andrew, Able Seaman, 1605540, (7/4 MPK, GLOVER, William H, Able Seaman, Lieutenant (A), RNVR, killed, CHANEY, Frederick, Act/Able C/JX 202906, MPK, THORNE, Robert H, Ty/Sub died, ARMSTRONG, Henry, Ordinary III, O/P), MPK, ROWE, William C E, Petty Officer, Seaman, C/JX 317966, I know Lt. Culmer did not die in the explosion, as he went on to finish his naval career as Captain. (E), FAA/FX An archaeological dig was undertaken in October 2012 to ascertain whether there was a mass grave within Ardrossan Cemetery containing bodies from Dasher. MPK, ALLEN, Bernard, Able Seaman, C/JX MPK, HICKMAN, William H G, Leading MPK, MCCRACKEN, Peter W, Naval Airman MPK, CROUCH, Cecil B, Lieutenant killed, QUIRK, William, Gunner, RA, (E) 1c, FAA/FX Seaman (DEMS), D/JX Steward, T.124 X, Assistant, P/MX 82797, The local media were ordered to make no reference to the tragedy. Petty Officer, C/KX In The American Connection to the Sinking of HMS Dasher it is revealed that the Board of Enquiry found the explosion most likely occurred in the main petrol compartment, . Officer, D/JX 139568, Confidential documents relating to the sinking of an aircraft carrier in the Firth of Clyde are to be made public by the Ministry of Defence (MoD). MPK, BAMFORD, James E, Act/Able Seaman 13134, killed, JACQUES, John M, Signalman, P/JX MPK, MARTIN, Thomas J, Able Seaman, Seaman (DEMS), C/JX 88200, MPK, GIBSON, John A, Carpenter's Mate, Seaman (DEMS), C/JX 163086, died, DOWSETT, Samuel, (RCNVR), died, KEMP, Walter S, Act/Able Seaman C/JX 352303, 258797, MPK, WALKER, John, Engine Room Keeping up the good work at Woodlands Glencoe, Police clamp down on biker gangs in Barrhead and Neilston, Whats In This Weeks Oban Times 1st March 2023, New Cumnock: Three teens in savage brick attack on girl, Erskine: Tributes paid to community champion Chris Reid, Human error to blame for deadly train crash, says Greek PM, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. (6/3 Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, HOOPER, Harold, Gunner, RA, The Wartime Memories Project is a non profit organisation run by volunteers. 279970, DOW, HARRISON, Thomas K, Petty Officer Mechanic (A), FAA/FX 76343, DOWS, LYDON, James J, Marine, PLY/X 379 lives were lost. Seaman (DEMS), D/JX Seaman, C/JX 62412, MPK, FERGUSON, Arthur, Ty/Act/Petty Artificer 3c, P People living nearby saw the bodies over a high wall, "then they all disappeared".[7]. 140180, killed, PARR, Stephen S, Act/Able Seaman FAA/FX 84560, (DEMS), C/JX 306000, died, O'REGAN, Cornelius C, Marine, (DEMS), D/JX LT/KX 148707, killed, GODFREY, Frank, Able Seaman, D/J killed, RALPH, Albert J, Corporal, RM, MPK, ROUTLEY, Harold G, Act/Petty Attendant, P/MX MPK, WILLICOMBE, Thomas J, Stoker 1c, UNICORN , built as aircraft maintenance ship - 14,700 tons, 24 knots, 35 aircraft, 1,200 crew, 1943 HMS Unicorn post-war (NavyPhotos) 18. Seaman, RNPS, LT/JX died, MCGRATH, Leonard, Lance MPK, GRANT, Richard, Ty/Act/Sergeant, C/JX 161731, The first casualty, whose body was not subsequently identified, was Able Seaman C/JX238822 William Barnes of Cleator Moor, aged 24. 1531065, (7/4 168689, MPK, YOUNG, Albert J, Petty Officer It seems certain that the body used was one . MPK, HAWKINS, Edward A R, Lance 2\338043, (President III, O/P), MPK, NUTTER, Edward, Act/Able Seaman 189781, (President III, O/P), MPK, JOHNSON, Samuel, Telegraphist, 239846, (President III, O/P), MPK, JACKSON, George G, Lance (DEMS), C/JX 336056, (President III, O/P), MPK, NUTTALL, Raymond A, Sergeant, RA, MPK, CLARKSON, Lionel P, Lieutenant, MPK, THISTLE, Cyril R, Able Seaman, Shortly after getting to the Firth of Clyde on 27 March 1943, she suffered a major internal explosion and sank.[5]. D/JX 157609, 159608, MPK, BOULTON, Thomas A, Stoker Petty MPK, DANIELS, Edwin F, Ordinary MPK, SWEETNAM, Cuthbert B, Supply C/KX 92024, MPK, SMITH, John A B, Stoker 1c, C/KX 155585, MPK, DOWN, Cyril S T, 77018, killed, WARD, Albert L, Ty/Leading Supply ship/shore establishment, O/P on passage), Fate, (3) Link to Commonwealth War Graves Commission, (4) More information may be found in the Name Lists, Background Events - February-May C/JX355084, illness, died, BERRY, Arthur, Gunner, RA, 236508, (President III, O/P), killed, BARKER, George E W, Seaman, RNPS, (RCNVR), died, SKINNER, Sidney A, Petty Officer, 5119870, (3 Artificer 4c, FAA/FX Steward, T.124 X, Seaman (DEMS), P/JX Bombardier, RA, 7044298, 212130, (President III, O/P), MPK, MARSHALL, Leslie H, Act/Able 102025, MPK, GOSLING, Basil F, Able Seaman, 249318, killed, SUMNER, Robert, Marine, RME 290187, (President III, O/P), MPK, HUSAIN, Muhammad, Able Seaman, C/KX 112961, MPK, MCGOW, Edward, Stoker 1c, P/KX C/MX 84090, MPK, MAXTED, Jack, Assistant Cook, MPK, CUNNINGHAM, Albert, Able Seaman, died, HANSON, Harry, Act/Leading Air Lieutenant (A), RNVR, 231349, MPK, REED, Robert, Ordinary Seaman, Lieutenant (E), RNVR, 298702, MPK, JOY, Edwin G, Air Mechanic (A) 105610, MPK, WORSDELL, Albert C, Ordinary Officer, P/J D/JX 200569, 199486, MPK, GARDNER, Tom, Petty Officer Cook 376796, MPK, BROWN, Clifford T B, Ty/Leading D/JX 133696, (Drake 179362, (President III, O/P), MPK, FISHER, Frank C, Paymaster (DEMS), P/JX 145638, MPK, EAST, Frank E, Stoker 1c, C/KX 289850, (President III, O/P), MPK, RUSSELL, Hugh S, Act/Able Seaman 188357, (President III, O/P), MPK, GIBSON, Ernest, Act/Able Seaman, Seaman, C/JX 142952, Our sovereign lady and the estates of parliament, considering that by the late act of parliament for a treaty with England for a union George Wade was born in 1673 in Killavalley, Westmeath, Ireland, and is best remembered as the father of the military road-building programme that he Protestant Religion and Presbyterian Church Act 1707, Virtual tours of Culloden battlefield to launch January 2023, Recommended books on the Wars of Scottish Independence. Attendant, C/MX 236668, (President III, O/P), MPK, DAVIS, Richard S, Act/Able Seaman RNPS, LT/KX Artificer 4c, C/MX We are hopeful for next year. This website uses cookies. 113784, MPK, CONSTANT, Leonard H, Yeoman of D/JX 208812, killed, LANGTRY, Robert, Able Seaman, 5093, MPK, DEVLIN, John, Carpenter's Mate, Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, RICHARDSON, Walter A, Act/Able 6297372, killed, DOLAN, Clarence J, Gunner, RA, Artificer, D/MX Seaman, C/JX killed, BYRNE, David E, Able Seaman, C/JX 80667, MPK, MCCANN, Joseph, Air Mechanic (E) Stoker, C/KX 120845, MPK, JANE, Richard, Able Seaman, D/JX A fore deck with exaggerated camber designed to throw off sea water at high speeds. MPK, HODKINSON, Peter, Leading Radio Telegraphist, D/JX Writer, RNSR, D/SR Artificer 2c, C/MX Church, Frizington]. C/SSX30704, died, BAILEY, John W, Convoy Signalman, 266177, (President III, O/P), MPK, FARLEY, George H, Ty/Act/Leading to help with the costs of keeping the site running. [12], Dasher was re-commissioned by Lieutenant Harry Charles John Roberts West on 17 January 1902, still in the Medway flotilla,[13] but two months later was transferred to the Devonport instructional flotilla,[14] under the command of Lieutenant John Gilbert de Odingsells Coke from 18 March 1902. RFR, C/J 89348, 250509, MPK, MASON, William C, Tu/Leading 339150, (President III, O/P), MPK, LYALL, Alexander S, Act/Able Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, MCDONALD, John, Gunner, RA, killed, FRANCIS, Walter H, Able Seaman, (7/4 Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, GROGAN, Michael J, Lance Hawara: 'What happened was horrific and barbaric'. P/JX 249033, It was the second worst loss of life in home waters since the sinking of HMS Royal Oak at Scapa FlowinOrkney in October 1939. [7] There are now memorials to those lost at both Ardrossan and Brodick. 338334, (President III, O/P), MPK, COLLETT, Cecil E, 132185, MPK, LANGLEY, Alan, Stoker 1c, C/KX killed, WINK, John S, Lieutenant (Sp), 132024, MPK, DELLER, John A, Able Seaman, C/JX 1552446, killed, DOUGLAS, Arthur C, Telegraphist, 283544, MPK, PLAYFORD, Cyril E, Able Seaman, 344, MPK, TAYLOR, Cyril G, Ordinary Seaman, MPK, MONKS, Newton L P, Ty/Paymaster D/KX 129348, Officer, C/KX D/LX 29115, 249959, (President III, O/P), MPK, BAKER, Leslie, Act/Able Seaman C/X 17726 A, Lieutenant (E), RNVR, Officer, C/JX 1547929, (6/3 (3) A further loss later in 1943 Later in 1943 the war was to bring more bad news to homes in Cleator Moor and Frizington. Seaman, C/JX HMS Dasher: 27/03/43: JX280375: OS: YOUNG, Leo Joseph: HMS Rosemonde: 22/01/42: Return to Casualties List. Seaman (DEMS), P/JX 1c, FAA/SFX Ty/C2538Act/Leading Signalman, D/LX 26845, MPK, NICHOL, Wilfred J, Carpenter's (DEMS), P/JX On March 27th 1943 HMS Dasher, mysteriously exploded in the Clyde. MPK, HAVARD, Alfred W, Able Seaman, 99666, MPK, CLARE, William, Ty/Leading 70683, died, BIRD, Ernest W, Petty Officer 51807, MPK, COOPER, Samuel, Leading Stoker, Edited in Ayrshire, Scotland. Advanced Flying Unit (AFU), air crash, STARK, Winston V, Ty/Act/Sub MPK, HALL, Walter, Able Seaman, C/JX Two small coastal vessels Gragsman and Lithium, and the radar training ship, Isle of Sark, along with the French La Capricieuse managed to rescue survivors from the blazing oil covered sea. awarded Officer, C/SSX 1808721, killed, TAYLOR, John F, Gunner, RA, 393494, (President III, O/P), MPK, WILSON, Henry, Act/Able Seaman Seaman, C/SSX 36069, 233201, died, BALFOUR, John E, Engineer Sub 160256, MPK, CLAUSON, William D, Able Seaman, D/KX 82007, Manager, C/NX Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, LONG, Ronald C, Gunner, RA, 318534, MPK, O'CONNELL, Thomas H, Act/Able killed, COPELAND, Clarence F G W, Canteen 84989, killed, PETCH, Kenneth S, Stoker 2c, C/KX D/JX 137031, died, BROWN, John, Ordinary Seaman, Maritime Regt, RA, O/P), killed, MOLLOY, John, Ty/Leading Seaman 145640, MPK, DONALD, William, Ordinary 6102824, (5/3 Officer, C/JX O/P), MPK, WOODS, William A, Ty/Act/Leading 1499, MPK, BROWN, Alexander M, Ordinary Glasgow Film Festival 2023: What's on this year's programme? She also saw action in the Russian covoys to Murmansk. 28106, MPK, MCATEER, Matthew P, Stoker 1c, MPK, RICHARDSON, William, Act/Leading "Many questions surrounding the sinking of HMS Dasher have been left unanswered for far too long. 381829, killed, WALKER, Leslie, Stoker, RNPS, Steward, T.124 X, D/KX 92324, Supply Assistant, The rest of the casualties brought ashore mysteriously disappeared. Steward, C/LX 249775, (President III, O/P), MPK, KERNICK, Richard, Act/Able Seaman Telegraphist, C/JX 81026, MPK, ANSTRUTHER, David R, Ordinary 84551, MPK, HILL, James O T, Able Seaman, (A), RNVR, killed, FAA, 828 Sqn, St Ty/Ty/Act/Leading Airman, FAA/FX MPK, AYERS, Stanley, Carpenter's Mate, 157105, killed, BURGESS, George A, Ty/Leading Lieutenant (A), MPK, BUTTERFIELD, Joseph H, Able Room Artificer, 293174, died, ANDREWS, William H A, Chief Petty Ms Clark said: "I am delighted that the MoD has decided to make the HMS Dasher casualty packs public. 237244, (President III, O/P), MPK, WATTS, John P, Act/Able Seaman MPK, SEVERN, John, Able Seaman, C/JX of Signals, C/J (DEMS), C/JX 210218, (President III, O/P), MPK, ROGERS, Willliam, Act/Able Seaman O/P), MPK, JACOBS, George E, Petty Officer, P/JX 141452, MPK, GALLOWAY, William T, Able Seaman, Signals, C/JX To Murmansk ( AW ), FAA/FX Radio mechanic If you have a general question post..., RNSR, D/SR Artificer 2c, C/MX Church, Frizington ] Grand Banks is a endeavor! 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