And a few days later James MacDonald's sons, Luke and . I hope you have a great day and God bless. And as people rotated through, there were newer people on the board, and they wouldnt have really had a lot of access to to James McDonald. And we already know the answer: the men are in charge no matter what and despite their failings and abuses. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, who's a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. It was a conference call because it happened fast. And when I look back at it, thats what I think. Jesus died on the cross for to take the weight of our sin so that we could be released from it. But the one letter that isnt published came from Sandy Song. According to his email, MacDonald has been able to hire a small staff and encouraged people to sign up for his Home Church Networkvideo messages for people to use in a home church. If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of God, and Proverbs, etc. At the end of that weekend, before James MacDonald got fired in February 2019. Divorce is a civil remedy that is necessary when there is abuse, physical, emotional, financial, or even when people are incompatible. James MacDonald Suspends New Home Church Network Julie Roys September 29, 2020 Seven months after launching a Home Church Network (HcN) for those who "struggle to get to church or to stay in church," former celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, is suspending the program. It was one of the big red flags to me, or I guess it was a yellow flag could have been a red flag, I wouldnt have done it. He was in the many meetings leading up to McDonalds termination. And I looked at it, and I could not read the whole letter in one sitting. Right? Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a "pattern of sinful behavior," James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch in Mesa, Arizona. So if youre listening, you need and you havent read those letters, you need to go back and Dean Butters, I mean that one has to be just the emotional impact of the the bullying and the abuse, and then even a video where he mocked a very well known Christian leader because she was getting married in midlife for the first time and mocking her for never having sex before. Harvest didnt know what it looked like to not have him as a senior pastor. If you wind back and in in elder meetings, I remember it being said by several several people, years before, if people start arguing the process, you know, you have them right up there arguing in the process. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. . And I was just, it was entertaining, you know, on one level, but on the other level, just absolutely tragic. Because it was still a time when many elders were not admitting any of the wrongs that they had done. But as, as these excerpts of James speaking as, as James did, to so many people knew that, that this was the way he really, really spoke and who he really was. But he said when he and Scott Phelps and Barry Slebaugh went into a meeting with James in the summer of 2012, asking for, whats your salary James? It does. Unfortunately, immature children in grown mens bodies seems to be a thing now. So thats why I think its so important to get the truth out there and to just keep speaking the truth. Whether he was going to resign or have an opportunity to resign or, you know, terminate his employment was to be determined at that point. My strength is dried up, as by the heat of summer. And we shouldnt be, you know, happy with standing in line and say, well, so and so said that, right? And by the meeting that night, the executive committee came to the elder board with a unanimous recommendation, per the bylaws, that James McDonalds employment should be terminated for cause at that point. And I checked my voicemail. But its also an important podcast, because as you may know, James McDonald is aggressively trying to rewrite history and relaunch his ministry. There is a solution for our sin in Scripture. I called him. In June, he posted a picture with 2022 GOP gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake. It wasnt an easy thing to do. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. It looks like these contemporary churches are just fundamentalists in different garb. Im sad for his fall. On that Haiti trip. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? The whole crooked machine needs to be brought down. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. There was a whole discussion about whether he was repentant and I said, I dont know, hes not repentant. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. If you went back to when the Elephants Debt was launched, I think this is telling. . We will talk through it. And you have James McDonald coming in, from the United States, getting off the plane for a little bit, doing a few meetings, which I guess he complained about doing. He was like he started appealing the process. In this episode of The Roys Report, former Harvest elder, Dan George, joins Julie to tell the real story of MacDonalds firing. Am I characterizing that correctly? No One Knows. I just know I got them. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And learn how MacDonald almost escaped being exposedand how six scathing letters that revealed MacDonalds true nature almost failed to reach the elder board. Judson is located on a beautiful 90 acre campus just 36 miles northwest of Chicago. June 17, 2021 James MacDonald, the former megachurch pastor who's been embroiled in scandal and controversy for several years, is lashing out against independent journalist Julie Roys. My husband really appreciates James McDonalds preaching against my better judgement I told him about the new messagesso we have the Advent message from his Home Church network cast to the TV I had planned to leave the room so I didnt have to watch it I have to tell you he sounds sincere (without wax) I find the whole situation so heart breaking and confusing. @Cynthia Wright Love your comment. And I sat down on the couch in my office and cried. I remember praying before the Harvest Elgin campus as a garage, and its a former corporate space. That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. If you hear that from the pulpit, or you hear that up front, I think, if Im sitting, if Im sitting in the seat, I think well, how fast can I get to my car and confess everything that just the Holy Spirit just brought to mind? Lets try little role reversal here. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And I, the next day, I wrote and said, Well, okay, I respect your wishes. You can unconditionally love someone. The leaders were brought together. The marriage relationship has died. Maybe some have on this platform for posting Julie has provided, but Ive never seen it. Ill tell you on that Saturday, there were, we took a break, because it was a long meeting. Because if he resigns, he gets up in front of the church, gets to spin things, and, you know, can probably relaunch somewhere else. I remember one other elder leading over to me and said repentant people dont ask for money. And I was still on the elder board, we shrunk the elder board that next week down to nine men. Pastor James MacDonald. Its loving to give medicine to a sick patient, and its loving to speak the truth to a deceived person.. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. He was an incredible communicator both orally and his deportment was engaging. Its so interesting. ChurchLeaders has reported extensively on MacDonald and Harvest, which began experiencing unrest back in 2013. Not long ago, I noticed that James MacDonald is still latched onto evangelical watchdog blogger Julie Roys as his number-one. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. Thats right. And Im just grateful that finally, the board, open their eyes. I said, again, please dont do it just because Im asking you. Think of the godly ones youve known and thank God for them. So at the end of the night, no one got the letters. I look back at those meetings. Marin, Not all he said was false because then it would have been obvious to any discerning Christian. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader. But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. She first came to my attention with James MacDonald, then with Ravi Zacharias, and now John McArthur plus one of his side-kicks is in her cross-hairs. So, Dan, thank you for that. And so we had a long meeting that Saturday to talk about what we were going to do. But to tell people they have to stay in a situation of violence, trauma and harm, or return to it, this is not a core tenet of Christianity. Both are true. There was a push for him to be able to resign, and to negotiate on several points that we now know what have you know, let him walk away with millions of dollars. And we got to a Saturday meeting then on the ninth. I knew that I wasnt going to win any arguments in the room. But for us not to act would be unbelief. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. This story saddens me. They said no, for various reasons. Because they stood up to James or they just tried to walk away quietly because they couldnt they couldnt stomach what was going on any any longer. That would be my word to Ron Duitsman. There was a spirited discussion of the letters and who should be able to read the letters. I pray for the man. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. Julie. Pastor Platforming James MacDonald Says Strong Women with Weak Husbands Become 'Toxic' By Julie Roys December 22, 2022 5:39 pm CST 26 Comments Pastor Ryan Visconti of Generation Church in Mesa, Arizona, is attracting attention for his partnership with James MacDonald and provocative social media posts. What do you give, he would have been removed from Harvest, theres no doubt. Following allegations of years-long bullying and financial misconduct, the lead pastor and executive team of an Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch, Everyone was laughing and goading, like it was a jokeuntil it wasnt. Roys detailed evidence from former Harvest elders, employees, and members that . If theres other passages we should be talking about, lets talk about them. And so really appreciate that and appreciate the time at which you did that. Thank you. And I dont need to know. Gary Weigel, if you total all the expenses including vet bills, it might be more than a tithe. I also dont believe girls (or boys) have to like certain colors or behave and dress in certain ways to be real girls/boys. James MacDonald, who was recently fired as senior pastor at Harvest Bible Chapel, is now facing an allegation of sexual misconduct by the church's former worship leader. I remember waking up that morning. If youre truly interested in hearing other views ask why or tell me how you landed there. And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. Hes asking for money. No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. She sends it to me and I wrote it. Hes a large imposing man. Harvest Insider Tells What Really Happened with James MacDonald. So, Julie Roys decided to do what she does best - investigative journalism - in order to find out the truth in the world of m. Julie Roys lives for her anti gospel, anti authority, man hating bias - even partnering with shock jocks like Mancow Muller or worse. We can put it up on the Harvest site, and Ill read it to the congregation on Saturday night. I asked Sandy Song to potentially write a letter. And most of them, a number of them, Ill say, have not read any of these letters. The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. I still dont understand all sides of the transgender issue, but can say 2 things: 1. On Thursday, Im in a meeting with him where honestly, Julie, they were trying to convince me and the other elders in the room that hadnt been in previous meetings to let him resign. I totally get the emotion that you must have felt because I felt it, too. You know, theres, I would say, round two, but I my guess is there were lots of small rounds in there, of people being silenced and bringing charges and, and the board looking the other way. Well, you know, we laugh about it. Yes, it is. But, at whatever time it was, you know, midnight in India or something sitting in the lobby, I sent an email, put my name on it, heres my statement. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. But it was at this point that I started to reach out to Harvest and really seeking their comment on some of the things that I had heard. He had joined, I think a year into, into Harvests history. Then pray for all of us. Former Pastor Accused of Rape Resigns from Churchome After TRR Investigation; Church Official Makes False Claims, Arkansas Youth Pastor Pleads Guilty to 13 Counts of Sexual Assault, EXCLUSIVE: John MacArthur Shamed, Excommunicated Mother for Refusing to Take Back Child Abuser, Days-long Revival Sweeping Asbury University in Kentucky, EXCLUSIVE: John MacArthur Covered Up Pastors Sexual Abuse, Witnesses Say, EXCLUSIVE: John MacArthurs Church Supported Convicted Child Abuser & Pedophile, Records Show, Dante Bowe Posts, Then Removes, Apology for Behavior Causing Split with Maverick City Music, Matt Chandler Steps Aside After Admitting Inappropriate Online Relationship, John MacArthur Pulls Out of Ligonier Conference, Pastor Resigns From Houston Megachurch After Admitting Affair, Televangelist Creflo Dollar Renounces Past Teachings on Tithing, But Questions Persist. And and Im still feeling it and Im still hearing from people. But again, reading those letters, and it does have a different impact when you read the actual letter than someone summarizes it. So Rick was in the meeting, as were others, and they were defending saying the elders should not have the letters. So let me let me take you to February I believe is February 12. I remember talking and saying, guys, were all going to give an account to the Lord one day for what were doing in this meeting. Ed Stetzer was given a car by James MacDonald, along with a bunch of cash and other things that Roys documents in her reporting. The owners of Marquardt are friends of mine, Dan and Kurt Marquardt. Like this had been a months long drawn out battle. And I, I look back at those meetings that I was just describing, Julie, I dont I dont say this lightly. MacDonald adds, Of the more than 4000 Change Partners once faithfully supporting our efforts monthly, there are now about 150the remnant from which we seek to rebuild. He then invites people to send him gifts. I feel that our beginnings, KJV or influences kept many people locked in to the Old Testament, with all of its Thou Shalt nots. One person suggested reading the New Testament first for a change and then read the Old Testament for the beginnings, the stories and allegories and basically manmade superstitions and misogynies. What does the bible say about that? She also previously hosted a national talk show on the Moody Radio Network, called Up for Debate, and has worked as a TV reporter for a CBS affiliate. Its phrased to make you feel morally superior. Harvest Bible Chapel Sues Former Members, Julie Roys for Defamation; Harvest Bible Chapel's chief information officer allegedly stole $270K; Harvest Bible Chapel to launch 'Freedom House' 90-day residential addiction recovery program ; James MacDonald Reflects on 30 Years in Ministry, #MeToo, Millennials and Future of Faith in the US And you got all of them. And everyone who stayed just drank the Kool-Aid. James MacDonald and Harvest: Years of Discord . So its critically important that the truth be told. Visconti wins the Internet! This is this is one of the biggest things elders could do. *, In an email to TRR, Gregoire claimed that Viscontis view about women does not match the research. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. The elder board of Harvest Bible Chapel formally apologized to independent journalist Julie Roys and several former members, months after joining founder James MacDonald in a defamation lawsuit accusing them of publishing false information about the church's management and finances last fall. What it really means to speak the truth in love, one post read. When I entered my UCC church-sponsored college, I figured out why. The only joy in doing this is we would be obeying Gods word. It was a four hour meeting. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Bank Dismisses Foreclosure on James MacDonald's Estate After Settlement with Harvest. "I was sitting in the back seat. . I mean just absolutely devastating stories and, and feeling the pain. But again, you push that issue, you got those letters. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. So they have no idea what they really these, the elder board was large and had no idea really who James MacDonald was, am I right? (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. If youd like to find me online, just go to Julieroys.com. Is that how it went down? Ron Duitsman, Chairman of the Board, who agreed to fire James, now appears to be out there, saying that after James got fired, that the elders were were spinning what happened in a false way. Its come to this. Very interesting discussion. Id read through everything and all the letters. And, again, this is five days after I published my expose of Harvest and World Magazine. You dont know how I got ahold of them. His employment is coming to an end. So thats, thats February 5, 2019. And his email says, it seems we are being targeted. In the area (a south metro suburb of Minneapolis, MN ), that's just the average cost of a house. 28 Feb 2023 13:40:27 You can review it. I dont know how the person who gave them to me got them. And then out of the blue, I get slapped with a lawsuit from James McDonald before I published anything. I didnt, I didnt argue with him. That would be acceptable teaching. Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder of The Roys Report. Had it not been for that recording, I mean, what do you think? I dont understand how folks in a church can continue to contribute to the church knowing that a significant portion of their contributions have gone / are going to line someones pocket in this dispute. None of those charges were looked into. I did not. I think of a few things Julie. Again, James is is now saying, oh, all of that had approval. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! No One Knows. And many who have followed this story know what James McDonald has done. Hi. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. *Correction: A previous version of this story incorrectly reported that Visconti and Generation Church had deleted their social media accounts. God does not value the sanctity of marriage more than the safety and sanity of individuals in that marriage.. She wrote about, you alluded to it, she wrote about the end of this Risen for the Nations tour when they were in Haiti. There were six people who were brave enough, vulnerable enough to write letters. Thanks for for standing up for what was right. May 19, 2021 10:53 am To some former Harvest Bible Chapel insiders, Rick Donald was not just James MacDonald's right-hand man; he was also his "hatchet man" or "smiling assassin." Load more And there was a group and we had two prayer meetings of people who had been former elders, staff people who have gone on the record with me. 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